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, we have the president winning re-election. we have john boehner returning to the speakership. harry reid returning. to being the senate majority leader. and while the status quo was the big winner last tuesday, the history books will not remember the names john boehner and harry reid as long as they will remember what this re-election meant for president barack obama. >> that's exactly right. it is a ratification. it is an affirmation historically. you could argue that maybe one of the reasons he's crying is he's going to have to deal with john boehner and harry reid going forward. so there could be a very practical trigger there. but certainly, i mean, what mike and john have said is exactly right. it's an important moment. he's the third democrat, fourth democrat, to do this in a century. woodrow wilson, franklin roosevelt, bill clinton and barack obama. not bad company to be in. >> by the way, i heard you say that on wednesday morning. who was the democrat -- the last democrat before that to do it? >> well -- >> that's a test. >> -- that is a test. >> jackson? >> i guess it would

country. >> i want to follow up that question and ask neera real quick -- john boehner expressed openness to reductions in spending, reforms, but not structural changes, not ending the federal entitlement to medicare or medicaid, as the ryan budget would do. where do you think that goes after the election? >> i think the president really crossed the rubicon there by putting medicare and medicaid on the table. neera mentioned the budget -- hundreds of billions of dollars in cuts. romney tried to put it back in. i thought it was very ironic. social security? no, it has not been on the table. i think he has already done so and i suspect he will continue to. >> one of the interesting things about that -- we will go to the audience in a minute -- think of the context. medicare is one of the policies that transfers resources down the generational ladder. from the retiring baby boom that is 80% white and moving it into an uninsured younger population, it really in many ways -- the federal government has $700 per capita, something like that -- is striking that under such explicit attack, for kind

and house speaker john boehner both insisted they'd hold firm on whether or not to raise taxes on the wealthy. here are excerpts from the president's first comments on the subject since his victory tuesday night. he spoke to a crowd of supporters in the east room of the white house. >> as i said on tuesday night, the american people voted for action, not politics as usual. you elected us to focus on your jobs, not ours. and in that spirit, i've invited leaders of both parties to the white house next week so we can start to build consensus around the challenges that we can only solve together. last year, i worked with democrats and republicans to cut a trillion dollars worth of spending that we just couldn't afford. i intend to work with both parties to do more, and that includes making reforms that will bring down the cost of health care so we can strengthen programs like medicaid and medicare for the long haul. i've put forward a detailed plan that allows us to make these investments, while reducing our deficit by $4 trillion over the next decade. i want to be clear-- i'm not

and speaker john boehner drawing different lines in the sand. will they break the stalemate? and if they don't -- that's coming up. >> greta: late today, david petraeus abruptly resigning after admitting to an extra-marital affair with his biographer. that's bad. but it gets worse. the resignation just days before general petraeus was set to testify at congressional hearings. coincidence? >> good evening, how are you? >> greta: i'm very well. congress pan, the affair, i mean, for the most part, i am trying to separate this out. it is a matter for general petraeus and his wife. but there is -- there is some parts of it that do have an implication. one is whether or not it's a security breach and that it should have been picked up and turned over to the house intel commits and whether or not that could be used as blackmail against him. your thought, sir? >> well, even someone as lowly as an assistant u.s. attorney has to undergo a background check with very invasive questions and you are expected to tell the truth and you are asked under penalty of perjury. so you can increase that expoinentia

boehner are telling different stories. will they break the stalemate? for over 60,000 california foster children, the holidays can be an especially difficult time. everything's different now. sometimes i feel all alone. christmas used to be my favorite. i just don't expect anything. what if santa can't find me? to help, sleep train is holding a secret santa toy drive. bring your gift to any sleep train, and help keep the spirit of the holidays alive. not everyone can be a foster parent, but anyone can help a foster child. petraeus abruptly resigning after admitting to an extra-marital affair with his biographer. that's bad. but it gets worse. the resignation just days before general petraeus was set to testify at congressional hearings. coincidence? >> good evening, how are you? >> greta: i'm very well. congress pan, the affair, i mean, for the most part, i am trying to separate this out. it is a matter for general petraeus and his wife. but there is -- there is some parts of it that do have an implication. one is whether or not it's a security breach and that it should have been picked

to retire. i think mr. john boehner wants to work out a deal. i really do. he has to get through. kantor and some of the others on the extreme right. -- eric cantor and some of those on the right. i do not like the extremism. it is not helpful to the country at all. host: thank you for the call. we read this at the top of the program. on our twitter page, there is this -- nancy cook puts it this way. "game of chicken." her answer, probably not. george is on the phone from the line for republicans. caller: i just think when the voters spoke on the past election that we as citizens are being shortchanged. we vote our -- our constituents voted for representatives, but we are not being represented. in the last 30 days of the campaign, i decided to be an independent. i was not convinced everybody was being fairly treated with the tax cuts. therefore, i believe speaker john boehner, rip cantor, reid, and the president to sit down and realize we elected them to look out for our best interests. what we do not get that, you get the backlash you got on the last election. host: a couple of other op

guest: john boehner said he was looking for a golf game with the president. i do not know, talking to the obama campaign during the election, they were confronting an angry set of voters, even those who supported them. the theatrics in washington -- we have heard a lot of callers talk about this. i don't know if they have a place right now. this is an extremely urgent thing they have to address. it could have real consequences on recovery, really end it, and i do not think we will see a lot of that. i do not think the president wants to strike that tone. i think it will be pretty serious. it does not mean they will not try to get together in some kind of setting, but i do not think it will be seen the light it was in summer 2011. host: we want to thank our two white house reporters. thank you both for being here. that does it for today's "washington journal." we will be back tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. with more of your questions and comments via phone and twitter. thanks for watching. host: [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satell

boehner talking about congress and the fiscal cliff. them live at 7:00, your calls and comments on "washington journal." >> i want my fiction to be intensely journalistic. unless you get out and look at what is going on these days, you are going to miss the things that are influencing yourself that everybody else. >> best selling author tom wolfe is live sunday from miami but ferret international. he will discuss "back to blood." he will answer questions from the miami audience. sunday at 6:00 on c-span 2. >> to these are the casualties of the spirit, the troubled in mind, man their damaged emotionally. since it requires special therapy. headdresses is -- >> now you are deep sleep. we are going back. we are going back now. we are going back. >> one of the most important procedures is group psychotherapy. here under a psychiatrist's guidance, the patient learns something of the basic cause of his distress. >> i would like to get some illustrations of how one's personal safety would stem from childhood safety. >> i kept it to myself. >> this weekend on c-span 3's " american histor

congress acts. president obama and house speaker john boehner picked up where they left off in dualing public appearances where both sounded consillatory, but didn't seem to budge much. must add to the president's to do list one more thing. he needs a cia director after general david petraeus resigned admitting to an extramarital affair. joining me now is robert menendez, later chairman of the house homeland security committee. good morning, senator. it's good to see you. let me start out with the petraeus matter. do you believe that this is -- leaves a big hole in military or intelligence operations or can they carry on smoothly? >> well, mike morrell, the second in charge, i think, is an excellent individual, has the president's confidence and can carry on in the interim. i don't feel general petraeus was a tremendous asset at the cia. it's unfortunate. i respect his decision under the circumstances. in the interim i believe the agency continued to function under mr. morrell. >> what kind of holes will this leave? >> i have questions about the whole matter. first of all -- excuse me

a longtime democratic members retiring and been replaced. >> and then you have the fiscal votes. john boehner manage to round up republicans on the oversight of the caucus and joined with nancy pelosi and the government kept running. they put together the budget control act. they put together this bipartisan coalition. nobody wanted to take credit for it because it was embarrassing to the republicans to go back home and say, in the end, we are running the government in a bipartisan way. yes, there will be ideological hotheads. but even among those freshmen, when they start feeling the pressure about the fiscal cliff approaching from the big factories, is that what they really want? i think it will get it done. >> it seems to me, there are two factions of the republican party battling for some kind of super mess. and it is the guys in the beltway, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, the leaders reverses the guys outside the beltway. the guys in iowa, rick santorum, the folks in south carolina who gave the primary to newt gingrich. beyond that, i feel -- ever since george of the bush's second term,

, these votes are going to be even more relevant in the future. >host: >> next, president obama and john boehner talk about the fiscal cliff. after that, the white house press briefing with jay carney. >> president obama says that tuesday's elections show that most americans agree with the deficit reduction plan. the president has invited presidential leaders to discuss the deficit and warned about the potential effects of the fiscal cliff. that is this series of tax increases and budget cuts that take effect in january if congress does not act. the president addressed an audience from the white house east room. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> ladies and gentlemen, the president and the vice president of the united states. [cheers and applause] >> thank you. thank you. thank you, everybody. thank you. thank you very much. thank you. thank you very much. everybody, please have a seat. thank you. good afternoon, everybody. now that those of us on the campaign trail have had a chance to get a little sleep, it is tim

boehner said it right, we're inviting you to lead. >> the thing that is, cannot be ignored is that we are a year past when we knew the committee -- almost a year past we knew the super committee was want going to reach a decision. if leadership is what was needed and you sign that to president obama, he hasn't done that. we are pushed up against a deadline, with very serious decisions. do you think that the house and the senate and the president will actually resolve this by january 1? or are they going to kick it down the road again? >> ck has a long history of preferring to kick the can down the road. there is no question about that. however, this -- this is a much more serious thing that they have come against than i have ever seen before, in terms of budget and the fiscal cliff. what do you think will happen? hopefully, they will agree a framework. you are not going to do tax reform in the next 6 or 8 weeks. you are not going to do entitlement reform in the next 6 or 8 weeks. we should hope that they get serious together, see a path and say, okay, we are going to take whatever the

and house speaker john boehner. and analysis from the national journal. last night and democrats held on to their senate majority. harry reid talked about the election results. we will hear from republican john bellair. -- john boehner. >> i am glad to be back. it was a late night, early morning. to it is clearly we're going increase our majority. but the results show a number of things. a number of things for certain. one is that we're the party of diversity. look at the results from all over the country. i'm looking forward to working with so many great accomplished centers. i have talked to virtually everyone of them. when i came to the senate, barbara mikulski was it as far as women. now one-third of our caucus is women. the remarkable work done by all these great centers to be. but the election is over and we have enormous challenges ahead of us. they're right here. and we have to sit down and go to work on it now, not wait. this was the message the american people sent from all over and that is they're tired of these partisan gridlocks. they're tired of things like i have one go

cliff. -- and john boehner talked about the fiscal flat. president obama will be at the riesling say -- wreath laying ceremony 11 am eastern on c- span. >> 2013 should be the year we begin to solve our debt through tax and form an entitlement reform. i propose we avert the fiscal cliff together in a manner that ensures the 2013 is the year are government comes to grips with the major problems facing us. >> i am open to compromise. i am open to new ideas. i am committed to solving our fiscal challenges. but, i did used to expect -- except in the approach that is not balanced. i will not ask students and seniors and middle-class families to pay down the entire deficit while people like me making over $250,000 aren't asked to pay a dime more in taxes kerry >> the newly elected congress starts work and to january but the current congress has work to do at the end of the year. work is expected on the impending fiscal cliff, x -- including the expiration of the bush eric tax cuts, raising the debt ceiling implant gus to domestic and military spending. loorow all the florida th debates. >>

at the end of the year unless congress acts. president obama and john boehner picked up where they left off in dueling public appearances where both sounded conciliatory but didn't seem to budge much. you must add to the president's to-do list one more thing. he needs a cia director after general david petraeus resigned, admitting to an extramarital affair. joining me now is new jersey democrat senator robert menendez. and in new york congressman peter king who is chairman of the house homeland security committee. good morning, senator. it's good to see you. let me start out with the petraeus matter. do you believe that this leaves a big hole in military intelligence operations or can they carry on smoothly? >> well, mike morell who is the second in charge is an excellent individual, has the president's confidence and can carry on in the interim. obviously, general petraeus was a tremendous asset at the cia. it's unfortunate. i respect his decision under the circumstances. and i'm sure the president will now seek out a new cia director. but in the interim i believe the kgs can continue to f

tax rates for the wealthy. that's something that house speaker john boehner doesn't seem to be buying. listen. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. and, frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. i'm not sure it could pass the senate. >> without a budget compromise, drastic cuts amendmently kick in. that, of course, could send the economy spiraling back into a recession. white house correspondent brianna keilar is live for us this morning from washington. john boehner was the guy who said he didn't think a lame duck congress could do big things. what can be done in the next, what did i say, 53 days? >> well, maybe finding some sort of stopgap measure. some sort of framework on tax reform, soledad. i think that's the goal here. the fact is, house republicans and president obama and senate democrats, they don't really have a choice. they have to do something, and that became very clear yesterday when the cbo put out a report showing that if the country goes over the fiscal cliff you're looking at economic calamity. you're looking at unemployment ticking up, perhaps two points. you're lo

that nancy -- nancy pelosi and john boehner don't do that? [applause] >> they don't really socialize. one reason that joe might work together, i knew joe and i love him. i wouldn't do anything mean to joe. so that is a lot of it. the times have changed so much. in the senate, one of the problems as they got away from regular order. you send a bill to a committee. you have an oversight hearing, you have an amendment coming u-boat, you go to the full committee and the house and then you go to conference. but they wound up getting a transportation bill. it's a combination of things. modern technology, frankly it is a 24/7 news media. it is the fact that the members leave their families back home. you can't be a good legislator two and half days a week. you have to work at it. the combination of those things, it contributed to the partisanship and the gridlock that we have now. the answer is simple. it is called leadership. men and women of goodwill, conservative liberals, republicans, and the president -- they say it is an easy and we have to get results. >> so i want to come back to that. l

are expecting that john boehner will remain the speaker and erick kcantor will be the number two. there is not any major legislation on the floor of the house that we are expecting. >> the president is speaking again on wednesday on this and other issues. >> and using his post as the election pulpit to start the process. >> absolutely. >> a thank you for being here. an interesting couple weeks ahead for us to watch. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> watched grover norquist again at 6:00 p.m. eastern here on c- span. and about 30 minutes, president obama will participate in the presidential ceremony at the tomb of the unknowns. we will bring you live coverage here on c-span. while we wait, here's a look at the presidential election and congress from this morning's "washington journal." don >> he is still resolute in the face of defeat. >> not to see you. sometimes you win. sometimes you lose. >> this is tough. he is a close contender. he has given credit for getting george bush elected in 2000. bbthe

boehner said they would continue to staunchly oppose tax rate increases, but on sunday. bill kristolly to republican house members it's not just them versus the president, it's them versus history. >> i think republicans will have to give in much more than they think. four presidents in the last election vo won 50% of the vote twice. roosevelt, eisenhower, reagan, and obama. republicans in the house will be able to get some concessions, but i think there will be a big budget deal next year, and it will be much moran obama budget deal than paul ryan budget deal. elections have consequences. karen capehart, did you expect anything this big this fast? bill kristol is influential with republicans in washington. i'm stunned with what i'm hearing? >> i almost fell out of my chair when boehner said revenues. the idea of increasing revenues. that's a central argument that we have been having over the last four years, and the very expensive i told you so i guess. if we're going to get to this problem, we have to deal with revenues, we can't just do it all on the spending side. >> jonathan capeh

are all in this together, boehner comes out the next day, yes, we can work this out, but over time, the reality is still up to very different parties with very different values, very different constituencies, and when republicans starts to get to squishy or a democrat starts to move to the middle, they get pounded on. shawn hannity, rush limbaugh, and shultz, and rachel matskmad. i started seeing earlier, getting e-mails from the pccc, which is the progressive change campaign committee, which saw the success of 2010 on the right and said we could do the same thing on the left. there is just more and more movement on the extremes, demanding in the party faithful to stay faithful. we still have primaries and republicans have to figure out a way to avoid tied aid in -- todd akins and richard mourdocks. there is no increase in the christine o'donnell vote, the witch vote. the republicans had five seats in the last two cycles for the have sacrificed a seat by nominating sharon engle and christine o'donnell, and now the two this time. republicans are going to have to figure out how to do

monday. jon: brand new stories and breaking news. president obama and house speaker john boehner speaking today about what is needed to avoid a potential economic crisis in january. >>> an ohio teen sentenced in a deadly plot to lure victims with phony job offers on craig's list. >>> silent killers of superstorm sandy d the threat of carbon monoxide exposure, dangers from downed power lines and contaminated water. it is all "happening now." jon: iran uping the stakes with the standoff over the west on its nuclear program. a good friday morning to you. i'm jon scott. >> i'm jamie colby. good to have you here. i'm in for jenna lee today. talk about happening now, there is lot happening this hour. let's start with this. iranian warplanes opening fire an unarmed u.s. drone? the pentagon said it was flying over the gulf. that international waters. fortunately the drone was not damaged. jon: all this as the you know announce as fresh round of new diplomatic talks with iran next month. national security correspondent jennifer griffin live at the pentagon with more on this. this happened

john boehner has some basis for saying that if the president has a mandate so do house republicans. the popular vote for the house republicans will probably come out to something like the same 50-48 by which obama beat romney. that hasn't been fully tabulated yet. back about 20 years ago, circa 1990, political scientists and pundits said the republicans have a lock on the presidency and the democrats had a lock on the house and they had all sorts of good reasons why this was so. the democrats picked the lock on the presidency in 1992 and republicans broke the lock on the house in 1994. starting with those elections democrats have won four of the six presidential elections and plurality of the popular vote and other republicans have won majorities in six out of eight elections for the house of representatives. so, it is eight out of 10 in the house of representatives. looking back from 2014, back 20 years, 21994 we will have had during that period for 10 years a democratic president and a republican house, two things that people in 1996 it never happened. so it's something like the

if not paralyzed to regenerate itself and get stuff done. speaker boehner has come out and said, mr. president, let's get some stuff going here. how much of the responsibility lays with him and speaker boehner? >> people want cooperation on both sides. the issue at hand will be the fiscal cliff and our budgetary situation. the president's put a proposal forward, it's incumbent on the speaker to say, what they would be willing to do and not simply say, it's not our responsibility. irthi i think people expect everyone to live up to their responsibilities. and one thing that is clear as i moved around the country with the president is that they're hungry for that kind of cooperation. i hope that people will come with a renewed sense of cooperation. because it will take that to solve problems. let me just say one other thing, though, you mentioned that not much has changed. actually what is interesting is you have these super pacs spending literally billions of dollars to defeat the president and democrats running for congress. well, the president was re-elected. you have more democrats in the senate t

of them is obamacare, as john boehner put it the other way, it's the law of the land. that means that businesses are going to be laying people off. that means that over eight million americans who are part time are going to continue to work part time until we see a real resurgence in this economy, certainly. because it's just not economical for the employer to move ahead. it's cheaper for them, in fact, to pay a $2,000 fine. imagine this, to pay $2,000 for an employee they didn't hire who they've hired and not put them on an employee-sponsored insurance plan. this is the exact reversefect of what we had, you know, been told would occur. but we should be used to that, because so much of the -- so many of the consequences have not been intended because they were never thought out by this congress, the previous congress. and we're looking at people saying it's partisanship. let me give you an example of why that's pure bull, shannon, many i fay. shannon: please do. >> one of the companies laying off people is a company called stryker, one of the medical device makers, one of the big

into hands because we are sick of it. and, you know, what i would like to tell john boehner is don't give in to this craziness. this is nothing but craziness. and i watched harry reid yesterday. you know, he talked and he talked and he really said nothing. then he went on about dance, dance, dance and i thought to myself all you do is dance around with these bills that they send. the house will have a bill, they send it to the senate and what does he do? dances around it and never addresses it. >> host: know by partisanship than for you? >> caller: no, absolutely none. then when he left the stage and was walking off, the man -- i feel bad for him that he just can't get it together -- he grabbed ahold of the flag. he was falling. then he grabbed ahold of low wall and at that point i said uh oh that man needs to go home. he's too old to be there. he doesn't do his job and is collecting a big paycheck. >> host: we covered that news conference. you probably watched it on c-span, go over to the site, c-span.org if you want to watch the entire press conference with senate majority leader harry

. a lot of people, john boehner came out and said, we open the door, he's willing to work on the grand bargain. bob woodward wrote a whole book about this and how far that boehner was willing to go and not telling his top surrogates how far he was willing to go, meaning raising taxes. did i -- i didn't hear one republican house member running on the idea of race raising taxes or a grand bargain. what would the response be from ann coulter? [chuckles] >> i don't think republicans are that stupid, although pat caddell is always calling us the stupid party. running as democrat-lite is not going to work. i will give-- >>> what if he goes along with simpson-bowles for the good of the country because we are headed to tax-magedon. >> simpson-bowles would be better than anything obama can come up with. we may not like it. >> sean: they always say there will be tax reform. all tax reform is sneaky way of raising taxes. that's what it will be. >> which produces less revenue to the government. no, republicans in congress, look, they have to hold the line, not give the store away. what they should

openness to reductions in spending with talks with john boehner but not structural changes, not ending the federal entitlement to medicare or medicaid as the ryan budget would do as a block grant. where do think that goes after the election? >> i think the president crossed a rubicon thereby putting medicare and medicaid on the table, hundreds of billions of dollars in cuts in medicare not to mention the $700 billion that romney tried to put back in. that was ironic. so security, no, that has not been on the table. i think he has already done so and i suspect he will continue. >> i will go to the audience in a minute. the medicare $700 billion is one of the only times i have been washington were politics transferred resources down the generational latter. the baby boom is 80% white and moved the money into a young population. in many ways, it is striking that came under such explicit attack for a kind of rebalancing that i think you are getting at as well. the amount we're spending on these entitlements primarily for the airily and what it means for our ability to invest in younger fam

of the house john boehner who will remain the most powerful in washington another two years think voters instead wants to compromise. >> the american people have spoken. they re-elected president obama and they again re-elected a public majority in the house of representatives. there's a mandate for us to find a way to work together on the solutions to the challenges that we all face as a nation. >> the democratic leader of the senate harry reid also expressed a desire to xroe mis-- compromi. now americans know they can't defeat obama now they need to put attention on meeting somewhere in the middle on important issues. >> this is a message american people sent from all over. that is they are tired of these partisan grid locks. they are tired of things like well i have one goal to meet be obama. that's gone. obama was re-elected overwhe overwhelmi overwhelmingly. american people want us to work together. >> we will find out soon if there will be compromise like both of the leaders that they both said because we are less than two months away from the fiscal cliff. long-term unemployment b

and 2008 election. so i think john boehner has some basis for saying that as the president has demanded, so do house republicans. popular vote for house republicans will probably come out something like 50-48, by which obama beat romney. that hasn't been fully tabulated yet. back about 20 years ago, circa 1990, political scientists and pundits said republicans have a lock on the presidency and democrats had a lock on the house. they had all sorts of good reasons why this was so. the democrats picked the lock on the presidency in 1992, republicans broke the lock on the house in 1994. starting with this election, democrats have won four of the six presidential elections and won a plurality of popular vote in another. republicans have won majority in six out of eight elections for the house representatives. so, this is, no, eight out of 10. in the house of representatives. looking back from 2014 them back 20 years to 1994, we will have had during that period or 10 years a democratic president and republican house. two things that people in 1990 said could never happen. so it's something like t

the tone of speaker boehner's remarks was very good. i also want to see what the substance was. what i do know is that different people heard this remark and interpret it in very different ways. grover norquist said he thought it was a good statement by speaker boehner, and other people who think we need to generate additional revenues to have a deficit reduction plan also say he made a good statement. it would be good to know exactly what he is talking about. >> how about for you? the whole premise of tax cuts, as we talked about the last 24 hours, is to eliminate deductions and bring down rates. that is what happened in 1986. >> i am talking about, what is our starting point in terms of the rates? what are we negotiating from? are we negotiating down from 35% or from 39%? i want to emphasize this point -- simpson-bowles, go look at it. they assume the amount of revenue that you would achieve if you allow the tax rate to go up. their tax reform plan is built off an assumption that you will get the amount of revenue as if he started at 39% and went down. they begin with what they call the

driving the decisions made here. i think citing i believe speaker boehner, it's fair to say that the president also believes we don't -- he's not looking to box himself in or box other people's ideas out. as we approach the conversation that will be in on friday. >> suggest to the meeting that just took place they might have to give up more than they would like? >> i think the president has made very clear that everyone, throughout this process, not just in this past week since the election, but for some time now, that the whole point of compromise is that nobody gets to achieve their maximalist position. that was the approach we took throughout negotiations in 2011 and it's the principle the president has based his own proposals on. if you look at, again, the programs that the president has already cut through legislation he signed into law, if you look at the savings he's willing to enact as part of his plan, it demonstrates a willingness to give so that you can meet your negotiating partner somewhere in the middle and reach a deal. >> you don't have any specific -- >> i d

be speaker boehner, harry reid and richard trumka -- they are suggesting, they are hinting about a deal to get rid of this fiscal cliff. it would be raise taxes now, promise to cut spending in the future -- megyn: oh boy. >> -- and don't worry about the deficit. megyn: you're telling me john boehner's going to agree to that? >> he's agreed -- he's saying, he's making con conciliatory nos that maybe we don't mind if we get more money coming in from the rich. he wants to get rid of loopholes, but the effect is more money coming into the treasury. harry reid says tax the rich. trumka says don't cut entitlements, no, no, no, and don't worry about the deficit. you add that up, and that is a deal on the fiscal cliff, but the stock market doesn't like it, and the economy won't do well in it. that's the bottom line. megyn: all right. we'll see what they do with the fiscal cliff. they tried to fix it twice, twice they failed, now we're getting close to the deadline, and they're like, oh, we'll punt again. okay, fine. washington's going to do what it's going to do. what about obamacare? that, all

are trying to devise a some kind of cover for john boehner. the voters last night in the exit polls said that they're willing to take higher taxes but they think the government is too big. that's the deal that banner and obama almost got two years ago. so it's there. is within reach but dana has to be given some kind of cover that he can bring, 140 republican votes with him. it's going to be very difficult to do. obama will have to decide whether he wants to go off the cliff to give it up that preoccupation that we have with bush tax cuts, or whether he's going, the better passers, try to cloak into something big and mushy and do we like tax reform, and stretch it out and let the deal be massaged in such a way to increase revenue and more money for growth. anything to avoid that horrible road called a tax increase. but this is the hard work that is ahead. obama has got to make that decision. >> we heard the last panel toggle bit redistricting and its impact on partisanship, especially in the house. jack, you made the point backstage at the senate has got more ideological itself, after la

? then what happens in the house? there are two questions and with john boehner. is he willing to go in and legislate, especially if he gets a major concessions from the president? in my gut, the answer is yes. can he bring his caucus along? yes, a few of the leading to party leaders were defeated -- tea party members were defeated, but they are still as conservative as they were before last night. we have some issues that could really divide us, like immigration with the president will be moving ahead quickly. the 10 to one of the old days said they would not accept, it may not be 10 to one come and maybe four to one or five to one, but they will get 80% of what they want. can they say yes to only 80%? the final one is the supreme court. what happens if ensign and scalia retires? forget -- antonin scalia retires? forget ginsberg. what happens if obama will appoint the first asian-american to the court? i cannot give you the answers. we will see a lot of bloodletting. goingave no idea what's to happen because i do not think president obama told us what he plans to do. i was very curi

incomes now and ensuring security for the future. hthis is the end of vision that speaker boehner without for the country last week. i cannot think why the present would not embrace it. someone said we should go over the cliff. just go off of the cliff. hope for the best. i do not think that is what the american people had in mind when they went to the polls last week. but they had in mind is that we put the contest of the past two years behind us and work it out. the best way forward in the way that will lead to jobs and growth, a smaller deficits, and you were political fights is to keep everyone where they are. figure out a way to avoid the automatic defense cuts scheduled to hit at the end of the year without putting a penny last thing we promised and committed to the entitlement reforms that we all claim we want. a simpler tax code that lowers rates and cuts special interest loopholes would create jobs and result in more revenue without raising anyone's rates. we know this because we have seen it before. it actually works. i do not think washington should get any of that extra revenu

months. maybe some of it rubbed off on him. we heard words from john boehner. we'll see if it's followed by action. we're talking about we're ready to sit down and make a deal. we'll follow your lead, mr. president. we want to bring in mike allen down in "politico's" newsroom. good morning. >> good morning, guys. >> there have been a lot of grand claims and proclamations over the past 36 hours. the republican party's dead. they can't recover. they've lost latinos forever. texas is a swing state now. put it in a little perspective for us. how bad are things at this moment? >> well, republicans recognize that things are really bad, as we've heard from the conversation here. they think that it's in freefall, and there's so many different parts that all have problems. you've talked about the demographic problems, this problem with the donors who gave a billion dollars, the outside group structure is clearly broken. >> that didn't work well. >> no, and i'll tell that you donors are angry about it. and somebody told me yesterday, donors -- and joe, you'll appreciate this -- donors are scorekee

. day. signed, john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the order of the house of january 17, 2012, the chair will now recognize members from lists submitted by the majority and minority leaders for morning hour debate . the chair will alternate recognition between the parties with each party limited to one hour and each member other than the majority and minority leaders and the minority whip limited to five minutes but in no event shall debate continue beyond 11: 50 a.m. the chair recognizes the gentleman from illinois, mr. quigley, for five minutes. mr. quigley: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, an estimated 50,000 people die every year as a result of seize years. some of -- seizures. some of these victims are like danny stanton. chicago's mike and mary stanton founded the danny foundation after their 4-year-old son, danny, died from a seizure while he was sleeping. it is dedicated to preventing deaths caused by seizures and raising epilepsy awareness among the public and medical community. that's no small task, but one

with you. i'm saying whatever ground game was due to the tea party. lou: john boehner talking with abc saying that there is no tea party pocket. this is a major statement by speaker of the house. >> i feel like there was a disconnect between what i was seeing on television, which were rallies filled with people, and then these people going to the polls -- lou: when the speaker of the house that there is no -- [talking over each other] there is a lot of division. >> it is still there. i'm not sure he's going to be very effective at doing that, he's trying to rein in the caucus. lou: i think you're right, monica. thank you all for being here tonight. we are going to look at your comments really quickly. where is obama to help the battered northeast? and obama said the best is yet to come, so

. >> eric: another quick point. when you have john boehner and mitch mcconnell and mitt romney talking about immigration, immigration reform, it doesn't hold the water, the credibility when marco rubio or ted cruz or martinez does it, who has a better background and basis for making comments on it. that is why it -- >> bob: it's a question of policy. are they going to change policy? >> eric: they are the ones to do it. if you're romney with immigration reform. >> dana: in 1986, they passed the bill, the immigration bill because of the amnesty bill in 1986, republicans are the ones that passed that. ronald reagan signed it. republicans lost seats in 1988. i don't know if that is the right rabbit to chase. >> bob: they increased percentage among hispanics. >> andrea: i still say no, matter what, amnesty, free healthcare, student loans. give, give, give. g.o.p., no quick fix and it doesn't see a harvard professor to see where it's going. coming up, the main stream media may not be totally to blame for the republican losses this week but they weren't fair and balanceed in the reporting. what sho

? third two questions that john boehner. number one, is he temperamentally willing to go in legislate, especially if he gets major concessions from the president. i think it and i got the answer is yes. that leads to the second question. can he bring his caucus along? yes, couple of leading tea party members of the house republicans majority were defeated, at the caucuses as conservative as it was before last night. i don't know the answer, we have tissues that could really divide us. immigration come or the president is going to move ahead very quickly. i did attend the wednesday one deal every republican presidential candidate said they would not accept. it may not be tenderloin. maybe four to one or 51, the republicans get at least 80% of what they want. the question is can they say yes to 80% of what they want? the final one is the supreme court. especially, what happens if antonin scalia or anthony kennedy retires? forget ruth bader ginsburg. they should see what happens, even if there's a mainstream nominee. or what if president obama aims the first asian-american justice to the

in the house will she stepped aside and looks pretty clear that john boehner is still going to be the speaker. i think actually the democratic pickups that may have emboldened the democratic leader pelosi to stick around, and actually i think this how women and minorities are much are believe the majority of the caucasus as well something she celebrates openly. but i think the question is for speaker john boehner who is last 45 days between a rock and a hard place. a lot of new members who i actually know lecture him when they were candidates about how republicans went back on their pledge in 2010 to hold the line on debt and retail obamacare. of course the second was largely out of control but the majority of the republican class found the tea party label as a liability voted to raise the debt limit. we may not have that kind of welcome were going forward in 2013. and i was struck when speaker john boehner said yesterday the higher tax rates are unacceptable to him. with all due respect it's not really his choice anymore. what's different about this environment is fax the tax rates, the bush

today john boehner, the speaker of the house has a news conference coming up. that will be a 5 p.m. eastern. we want to point out here on c-span2 coming up at 1:30 p.m., it will be the first news conference since the election for president obama. we'll have live coverage of that and take a phone call reaction as well. to austin, texas. now let's go to roseville -- i hope i got that right on the republican line. go ahead. >> caller: hi. i would like to say that nancy pelosi means leader, is horrible. she was leader last time. what she says and what she does is two different things. she spoke about when barack obama got elected the first, the first time in 2008, this is all going to be a about jobs, jobs, jobs, and they didn't focus on jobs. they pushed through the health care bill, and then she gets up there all the time. she is nervous, she's family, she's bumbling. she's just going to do what she wants but she doesn't look out for the people. she doesn't care. she just doesn't goes and pushes along the agenda and then health care bill, you have to pass it to find out what's in a

speaker john boehner said yesterday that republicans are willing to consider raising revenues, but only within limits. >> the president has called for a balanced approach to the deficit-- a combination of spending cuts and increased revenues. but a balanced approach isn't balanced if it means higher taxes on small businesses that are the key to getting our economy moving again and keeping it moving. >> woodruff: meanwhile, republican and democratic senators-- known as the gang of eight-- have restarted talks aimed at finding a deal. they held a conference call yesterday. and wall street signaled its own concern with wednesday's big sell-off. it was blamed partly on fears there will be no deal, and the country will go off the fiscal cliff. a number of business leaders are starting to take a more public position on how to tackle the fiscal cliff. we get the views of one of the c.e.o.s who have joined in with the campaign to fix the debt that we referred to in our piece. mark bertolini is chairman and c.e.o. of aetna, a health insurance company with more than $33 billion in revenue and a w

centralized in the leadership. so i do think that if you got say obama and boehner or romney and reid together with a relatively small number of people, you could exercise some pretty serious presidential leadership even with all the other thing going on in the country we talked about. >> rose: tom just joined us. go ahead tom. >> i'll just add to david's point i think when jon meacham 20 years from now writes the biography of president obama for his term there will certainly be a chapter that will be titled how could it be that barack obama turned out to be the worst communicating modern president in american history. and i think that's been himself has acknowledge that he had no narrative. i think that part of it was he was reacting to the hillary criticism, he just gives speeches. part of it he was truly focused on the substance of what he did. i would argue that it was not all just this noise thing. they had a very bad communication strategy and operation. there's a way of getting things across and repeating things. the way of explaining things like healthcare in a way americans would und

they acted. and the question is whether they'll have the courage of their convictions. speaker boehner appears to be torn by this. mitch mcconnell, on the other hand, appears to be concerned about winning a primary in kentucky. i can only recall his tactics that tried to mug the president, apparently, will continue. so this is a very interesting question. there are clearly people within the republican party who don't want them to be more flexible, who want to go down in flames. and that's the key issue. there are republicans who will be running for re-election for the senate next time pp, republican members of the house who understand they've got to be more flexible. and it's going to be interesting to watch. i hope they will fine the courage to break with the tea party. to date i'm not encouraged. to date the tea party continues to have that veto. >> now, compare this aftermath of an election with 2010, after the midterm election. what is the difference in terms of the political landscape and leverage of the democratic party? >> well, clearly the democratic message won. let me point o

. john boehner still in the house for the time being at the treasury. the president is back in the white house and harry reid is in the senate with a few more seats. why should i believe this would end any more positively than the summer of 2011? >> because again i'm not going to try to talk to you in optimism but let's look at what's changed. you have republican leadership acknowledging for the first time in this debate in public that it's agreed to increase in revenues as part of an agreement that helps restore fiscal balance. that's a very important change. you can debate on what motivated that change, and of course it's true that approach has been a popular very substantial support among the american people. you have a much greater recognition that the economy would benefit on a carefully designed balanced agreement on fiscal reform and putting it off indefinitely is not good for the country. that's important, too. and i also think again if you listen carefully to what people are saying and what many politicians are saying with many elected representatives are saying there's a lot of

to acknowledge speaker john boehner and house majority leader cantor and our democratic leader nancy pelosi for their support of this bill. i thank my colleagues, the gentlelady from guam, and also from the northern mariana islands, ms. bordallo, and mr. sablan, for their co-sponsorship of this bill. mr. speaker, today american samoa faces a serious problem of tobacco smuggling, as i'm sure it's the same with the other territories. according to a recent study two years ago, as many as five million, five million d 5,792,924 cigarettes were smuggled into the territory. the study found that tobacco smuggling resulted in the loss of about $724,,116 in revenues to the american samoa government. if continued undeterred, tobacco smuggling in the territories will include to heavier losses in local tax revenues, especially if cigarettes' excise tax rates were to be increased. mr. speaker, in this age of government fiscal responsibility, securing and sustaining stable resources of local revenue streaming is essential and must be encouraged for the territories. it was for this reason why i began to lo

at this point is likely no because even the top republican in congress, house speaker john boehner yesterday threw cold water on it saying he doesn't think it's necessary and the top democrat in the senate says the same thing, and others, as well. i have to tell you something that just happened on capitol hill, and that is our senate producer ted barrett just ran into john mccain and asked about something that we're hearing from democrats, which is john mccain is calling for more information to congress, but he had a press conference yesterday instead of going to a closed briefing where administration officials were giving more information. well, ted barrett asked john mccain about that, and it was apparently an intense very angry exchange and mccain simply would not comment on it at all. >> so this is just getting uglier and uglier, at least more passionate, shall we say, dana bash. >> absolutely. >> thanks so much. >>> the gop republicans struggling with its party identity after losing the presidential election last tuesday and it's not just pundits trying to figure out why the republicans

speaker boehner, majority leader cantor, majority whip mccarthy, democratic leader pelosi, democratic whip hoyer, house foreign affairs committee chairwoman ileana ros-lehtinen, and ranking member, mr. berman of california, as well as mr. levin who has been so very helpful on the ways and means committee for all their support in drafting the bill under consideration by the house this week. it has been a pleasure to work with all these individuals. mr. speaker, as i have said i believe the magnitsky provisions are strong, flexible enough to be well implemented, and allow us to have a cooperative relationship with russia on trade and other issues while holding human rights violators, including those responsible for the brutal treatment and death of sergei magnitsky accountable. as i stated earlier i would not be supporting pntr for the russian federation if this bill did not include the sergei magnitsky rule of law accountability act. mr. speaker, i agree with what has been said about the importance of increased trade in terms of promoting more positive reforms in countries like russia, but

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